Friday, March 30, 2012

Flamingo pool accessible to Harrah's guests?

i am already booked at harahs but would really like to use the pool for a day at the flamingo. since they are sister properties does anyone know if this is possible? if so, how do i do it %26amp; is there a fee? thanks for any helpful info...

Flamingo pool accessible to Harrah's guests?

The Flamingo pool is open to the public after 2pm.

Other than that there%26#39;s no access for guests of other hotels, those owned by Harrah%26#39;s or otherwise.

Flamingo pool accessible to Harrah's guests?

';Other than that there%26#39;s no access for guests of other hotels, those owned by Harrah%26#39;s or otherwise';

I think Bill%26#39;s guests are allowed to use the Flam pool any time, they do not have to wait until 2pm for the piblic access.

Rio allows non-guests for a daily fee, if you want some pool time before 2pm that%26#39;s an option.

  • natural hair
  • Las Vegas in Nov/Dec

    My friend and I are turning twenty-one this Autumn and to celebrate this we thought what better than to go to Las Vegas!



    We are both students so while we%26#39;ll have money we%26#39;re not high rollers by any means.



    What attractions are there in the middle of Winter in Las Vegas? We have our night entertainment worked out but it%26#39;s the days we%26#39;ll want to fill.



    Las Vegas in Nov/Dec


    Penny slots, while drinking for free.



    Las Vegas in Nov/Dec


    http://www.vegas.com/attractions/




    Cheap, cold.

    Maggianos....

    I noticed it mentioned in another post and took a look at their website- I%26#39;ve hunted around a bit and can anyone tell me anything else about this place? Family Style Lunch prices? Is it right on the strip- or inside a mall? Something said a mall- but another said great view of strip??





    Thanks!



    Maggianos....


    It is in the Fashion Mall but faces the strip with a glass wall for a great view. The food is good, huge portions , and good prices.



    Maggianos....


    I%26#39;ve been for both lunch and dinner. The view is facing towards Wynn area. I guess it%26#39;s a decent view but I truly never thought of going there for that reason. It is in the Fashion Show Mall. You can enter from the exterior of the restaurant or from inside the mall.





    Dinner was a disappointment--veal was of poor quality,red sauce on meals was bland, and sloppy service. Lunch has been hit or miss. When I%26#39;m in town w/my daughter we always end up there because she likes it and it%26#39;s not so bad I have to refuse to enter. I%26#39;m just not that impressed. Meatball sandwich that was split with another person lacked taste, salads were good. Come to think of it, anything with the red sauce ends up tasting the same! I also don%26#39;t like that they can%26#39;t/won%26#39;t change an item from the menu. I%26#39;ve asked on 2 occasions about getting mushrooms or something similar taken off an item and was told it%26#39;s a set menu, no can do.





    We did notice on our last trip a month ago that 2 separate parties were having issues and both got $taken off their meals. Not sure what was happening as we were close enough to see the end result but we must have gotten there after the actual problem occurred.




    Maggianos is a chain restaurant... just so you know it%26#39;s not a unique Vegas experience. We have %26#39;em around here.




    the prices range between $10-$20 a dish. i feel that lunch is a better value than dinner. food is solid, but nothing great. it is a chain, think a more upscale olive garden. the best thing is their stuffed mushrooms. sit outside if its not too hot, get a nice view of the wynn from the fashion show mall, which is right off the strip on the corner of spring mountain, across from treasure island %26amp; the wynn.




    it in the mall on the strip across from Wynn



    it%26#39;s fine, not great food, a chain that is just OK. I love italian food and much prefer a good old-fashioned mon %26amp; pop type with homemade food. For some reason people here rate this high - my only guess is they live someplace without good italian/they value quantity over quality. You%26#39;ll be OK, just not blown away.




    Last September my wife ordered Lasagne, the waiter replied %26#39;I am sorry but we do not have Lasagne on the menu tonight%26#39; --------- What, no Lasagne in an Italian restaurant????


  • pout
  • Ideas for lunch on the go

    My hubby and I are not really in to big sit-down lunches. We tend to eat a large breakfast, something smallish for lunch/snack and then a big evening meal. Normally in cities, we would have food from street vendors for lunch. What places should we be hitting if we want a cheapish lunch on the go? We are staying in the Mirage but will be up and down the strip, so location isn%26#39;t important. TIA!



    Ideas for lunch on the go


    I%26#39;ve found that many of the 24 hour cafe%26#39;s will let you take out.... There are also food courts at all the resorts.



    Ideas for lunch on the go


    There%26#39;s a lot of Sandwich places and such, like Wichcraft at MGM, Earl of Sandwich at Planet Hollywood (supposed to have great sandwiches.) The Caesars food court has pizza, sandwich wraps, soups, etc and is pretty affordable. Another place I like to grab a quick bite at is Jean Phillipes at Bellagio.




    Ooh Earl of Sandwich, yummy. Eaten there in Orlando and loved it. Will have to hit there at least once.





    Ps Really enjoyed your TR from Orlando Jack%26amp;Sally!




    Ceasars has a really good food court, we are the same about lunch. Most casinos have a couple of places to grab a quick bite. You won%26#39;t have any problem.





    Cheers,



    Magic97




    Ncmc, thanks:)funny how many Orlando forum readers frequent the Vegas forum as well....yeah I%26#39;m gonna try Earl of Eandwich based on recommendations from other Orlando visitors, don%26#39;t hear much about it over in this forum because of the large number of great dining options on the strip.




    For a quick grab %26#39;n go lunch, the wife and I have had good sandwiches at Bella Pannini in the foodcourt area of the Venetian and at Nathan%26#39;s Famous Hot Dogs in the food court area of several casinos including NYNY. You can get 2-4-1 coupons to both places by going to this web site to save a few bucks....





    www.vegas4locals.com/coupons.html





    PS. Nathan%26#39;s has more than hot dogs and the 2-4-1 coupon is good for any sandwich. Grilled chicken sandwich pretty good.




    I always make a stop at the Earl of Sandwich in Planet Hollywood, if I have a big breakfast I want something lighter for lunch as well.




    Thanks for all the hints. Will definitely be checking out the 2-4-1 voucher on the hotdogs, I hate them, but hubby would be well up to the challenge of eating 2!




    Hi ncmc,you should get the American Casino guide begore you go,,there are great coupons in it, I bought it 2 weeks ago and not going till nov...when are you going? did you get a good deal?




    Food court in the Fashion Show Mall has plenty of lunch options as well.





    For something a bit special definitely try Wichcraft in the MGM. Don%26#39;t expect it to be that cheap though.

    is Grand Canyon Toroweap better than seeing the South Rim?

    Hi,



    Thanks for your answers to my last questions. Another question about a Grand Canyon tour from Las Vegas. If you had the choice of day tours, would you say it is better to see the Toroweap region of the Grand Canyon or the South Rim?



    Thanks.



    is Grand Canyon Toroweap better than seeing the South Rim?


    Hi





    I have been to the south rim twice and enjoyed the views. I did consider the west rim but there were too many negative reports on it ie indian rip off. Although neither time we went was it a day trip from Vegas, this would make a long day out as the south rim is a good four hour drive. West rim is a bit closer. If you have the time going to the national park must be your best bet.







    Clive



    is Grand Canyon Toroweap better than seeing the South Rim?


    Toroweap is part of Grand Canyon Nat Park and is located on the North Rim. Very isolated place, but beautiful.





    If you are looking for the classic views of the Grand Canyon, then visit the South Rim. More amenities as well.





    If you want a primitive tour, with no restaurants, shops or people, then a trip to Toroweap. Not too many tours there.




    Are there tours to Toroweap?? Last year we planned this driving ourselves but the St. George visitor center discouraged it because of rain not long before. If you want a spectacular drive, hire a Hummer and go to Little Finland. Breathtaking but come well prepared. Maybe better just go South rim..



    Tet




    Hi





    Sorry I thought it was the west rim. We drove along the road near the north rim earlier this year as far as Lee%26#39;s Ferry and Jacob%26#39;s lake. The scerney is wonderful around there, better than the drive to the south rim. The north rim was still closed for winter when we drove through if not we would have gone there but we did stop at Marble canyon, which is the very begining of the grand canyon. Lot%26#39;s to see in the area.





    Clive




    Stay away from Indian tourist sights, if they charge money its a rip-off.





    Stick too the federal parks. you get what you pay for.




    I agree that the west rim area and the indian reservation concessions are a total rip off. Stay away from there.



    But as to the OP%26#39;s question. Toroweap is a very remote area along the north rim. Hard to get to, and no services what so ever. The view there is spectacular to be sure. But comparing it to a visit to the South Rim is hardly fair. If you take the time to visit the GCNP at the South Rim, you will see way more of the Grand Canyon from almost 30- miles of view points along the rim. The variety of views and colors in the canyon will amaze you.



    This is the reason why you see so many posts here that encourage you to visit the GCNP at the South Rim, as opposed to any other Grand Canyon destinations. There%26#39;s so much more to see and do there, and you can see and do it in the most efficient ways with a limited amount of time.



    The US Park Service chose to locate the GCNP at this place for good reasons. Noy just because there were roads that went there. (In fact there weren%26#39;t any roads until they put the park there). This is the most impressive and dramatic place to see and experience the Grand Canyon.



    If you only have one chance to see it, go to the Grand Canyon National Park at the South Rim.




    People do make day trips into Toroweap, but it would be a tough trip from Las Vegas with about three hours one way over dirt roads. The last few miles are not exactly rock crawling, but slow going over very rough road with sharp rocks often in the roadway. It is a primitive area with the only facility being a dry toilet at the campground. The view is spectacular, though, and well worth a trip for people who are properly equipped and prepared for the harsh environment.



    For a first visit to GC, which I assume this is, go to the South Rim. Much easier to get to and the facilities are great and the views are awesome. I encourage you to give up a night in Vegas and stay in or near the park for the best experience. http://www.nps.gov/grca/




    Thanks for the description Tex. We had planned a daytrip to Toroweap from St.George and a daytrip to Little Finland but could not do it because of circumstances. But we%26#39;ll come back.....



    Tet




    That%26#39;s for the info regarding Toroweap. The tour I had been looking at is run by Pink Jeep, but after hearing that it is has fairly basic services and it is over pretty rough roads, I think I%26#39;ll go with a tour to the South Rim.



    Thanks for your help.




    Jsyd, I think the video on the site underplays the roughness of the road over the last few miles, but all in all it%26#39;s a good short representation of a trip to Toroweap. It looks like a good tour for people who don%26#39;t have a 4x4 SUV to make the journey. I still think the way to go is to the South Rim for a first-time GC visitor. For those who are interested, here%26#39;s the link to Pink Jeep tour to Toroweap pinkjeep.com/jeep-tours/…cost



    Tet, you will love Toroweap. It really is at the end of the world. The local ranger, a young single guy (who else would they send to such a remote spot), was full of stories of people who came there without a clue about the hazards of the desert wilderness.



    I know you don%26#39;t need advice on the preparations to make for off-pavement touring in the Southwest. I%26#39;m so paranoid that before I went I learned from my local tire shop how to fix flats. Fortunately, I didn%26#39;t need the skill, but it was comforting to know I had a full-size spare plus the kit and the knowledge as I eased my vehicle over the sharpest rocks I%26#39;ve ever seen in the road close to Toroweap.



    At least one night in the campground is advisable. It%26#39;s similar to the South Rim in that sunrise and sunset are very magical times in terms of the light and the silence. It%26#39;s great to be there when the day trippers aren%26#39;t.

    Vegas Info

    I am going to be staying at PH in September with my wife. I was wondering if you could give me some info on what nightclubs we should go to and if there any tips on by passing the long line ups? We are also planning to see a Cirque show and are not sure between ';O'; or La Reve. Any in sight would be appreciated.

    We are booked in the deluxe room and was wondering if we can upgrade at check in and approx how mucj more it would be?

    Thanks,

    AJ

    Vegas Info

    Just as an FYI, La Reve is NOT a Cirque show. I have seen O and its a great show. It sells out almost every night , so i would definalty get your tickets before hand. Here is a link where you can watch a clip of the show …atdmt.com/MGM/…

    Vegas Info

    As previous poster stated, Le Rêve isn%26#39;t actually a CdS production. Le Rêve and ';O'; are both based around water. I%26#39;d personally lean towards ';O'; but either would be a good choice.


    Oops! Forgot to post this link. Lots of good club information here:

    http://www.jackcolton.com/


    Mandalay Bay, Luxor and MGM have good night spots, but there are so many clubs that it would be hard to nail a certain one down. I%26#39;d say pick one close to PH.

    Mystere @ Treasure Island was pretty cool.

    Try the $20 trick upon check-in. It may work. Todd @ the Front desk at PH hooks me up.


    While O is a water show and a great show you might want to see one of the most popular and longer running LV Cirque shows

    Mystere

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  • Do ';Slot Strategies'; exist?

    Curious to hear about everyone%26#39;s luck or strategies they may have had while playing slots. I%26#39;ve seen the shows on Travel Channel, and know that slots are all computerized and random. I%26#39;ve also read however that even so, there are better places in a casino than others to play slots, i.e. ';slot islands'; are better than machines that are close to the tables, or buffets. Also have heard that the big ';name brand'; machines like WOF, Red-White-Blue, etc., are better machines than some others. Any experiences that can confirm this?





    15 day countdown! 10yr anniversary!



    Do ';Slot Strategies'; exist?


    My strategy is... DON%26#39;T PLAY SLOTS!!! But hey, to each their own.



    Do ';Slot Strategies'; exist?


    Play the maximum if possible,i try to stay away from the 5 wheel machines.If its your day its your day$$ Good Luck ,once early morning after the crowds were gone i couldnt lose its all luck$$$$




    Congrats on the anniversay and happy slot play$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$




    Usually the off strip casinos have a better return rate then on strip casinos or casinos close to the strip. There is no doubt in my mind that over the past 10 years the machines have gotten tighter and tighter.





    Some of the places on strip such as IP or Harrahs might be better to pump the slots then say the Bellagio or venetian.





    The only strategies I use is always play max coin in, if you cant, then move down to a 2 coin machine or drop from say a $1.00 machine to a .50 cent machine.





    Those carousels that advertise the higher percentage give aways are a bit deceiving, out of say 20 machine Only ONE has to meet the requirement.





    Good luck




    Last time I was in vegas I had luck with the strategy of looking for machines that just paid off large $500+... Thinking they were ';hot';.. anyway, I won 3 x $1000 on diferent machines doing this.. maybe luck, maybe something to it. who knows




    Thanks for the congrats.





    I agree that if your going to play, no matter the denomination, you should always play the max. Too many times I%26#39;ve heard of people only playing minimum and hitting...only to get a portion of what they could have received.





    I guess you can%26#39;t take it too seriously. Having fun, which is why we all go, is the most important thing.




    A haggard looking old woman once told me this in a casino, so if it%26#39;s bunk, blame her, but here it is:





    On reel-type machines, you can look through the glass past the third reel. Look to the right. You%26#39;ll see some of the inner workings of the machine. On some machines, there will be two little mechanical counters, one right on top of the other.





    The two numbers represent the coins put in the machine, and the coins paid out of the machine. So, logically, you want to play machines where the numbers are as close as possible to one another. The larger the differential, the ';worse'; the machine.




    You know, I%26#39;ve actually seen those counters before but didn%26#39;t really know what they meant. I%26#39;ll keep a lookout for them. Thanks.




    It is random computer chip that controls your ';juices';.



    You need to (1) understand the game you are going to play and (2)If payout is $800 on 1 play and $1600 on 2 play, no big deal on max coins (until you hit, then you hate your self). But any progressive, free spin (wheel of fortune) stuff like that on 3rd reel, always play max. Same when you have 1 play $800 2 play $10,000.00 or over 1/1 now you have to play the max!



    Remember the casinos allow the manufactures to place their machines in the casino for part of the coin in. The manufacture is paying out the payouts, but if there are no winners you will have no customers.



    My host says there was truth to many casinos having ';active'; islands in areas where many people pass by and get attention. The machine even had counters on the back and if you had a long time employee ther, they could help, if you know what I mean. If you won and did not tip, you would never find a ';good machine again on that island. You do not see these ';islands'; much anymore. They require attendants, which mean overhead and hotels are cutting back on employees eveywhere possible.





    As to putting the ';hot'; machines next to buffet, forget it. Everyone waiting in line will drop a dollar or two in any machine by the line while waiting and it is normally crowed in this area. (Hey you may have something here, maybe this is where they hide the machines that pay out to make up the 80% required by law!) Whoo woo!





    Happy Anniversary and if you are in the Mirage and/or Belliago stop by we will buy you a drink. Will be there in 12 days for 12 days. You will find us by the buffets playing those slots! Thanks for the tip.




    I%26#39;ll definately look you up. Staying at TI (again)during same timeframe. Appreciate the info. Enjoy your stay and good luck!

    MGM Grand - Celebrity Spa Suites

    Hi





    Has anyone stayed in a Celebrity Spa Suite at the MGM Grand. Just booked it for a 6 night stay in a couple of weeks and was hoping someone could reassure me they%26#39;re as good as they look on the web!





    Thanks,





    Al



    MGM Grand - Celebrity Spa Suites


    I liked it and here are some more pics from my June stay:



    …webshots.com/photo/2537086460101286811WDMTKS



    MGM Grand - Celebrity Spa Suites


    We had 6 nights also back in September to celebrate my Wife%26#39;s 30th birthday and we booked the Celebrity Spa Suite. We couldn%26#39;t fault the suite at all, loved the extra space in the living room and bedroom and the bathroom was absolutely huge!!





    We are back in the MGM from 17th August for another 6 nights but this time we have opted for the Grand Tower Room. If we are offered any kind of upgrade for a fair cost (except West Wing) we will probably take it.





    I doubt you will be disappointed in your choice and the MGM is such a great hotel also.




    Brill - thanks to you both for the reassurance! Pictures are great and made me look forward to my trip even more!

    Lake Las Vegas

    When it comes to local real estate, it%26#39;s hard to find anything more impressive than Lake Las Vegas. The financial waters are anything but calm for the master-planned community. The developer of Lake Las Vegas has filed for Chapter Eleven Bankruptcy Protection.





    www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp…


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  • Best of Las Vegas Lists

    Saw this link when reading an article a poster mentioned about burgers and sliders. I will be looking at the lists.





    http://www.lvrj.com/bestoflv



    Best of Las Vegas Lists


    You%26#39;ve got to take these lists with a huge grain of salt. I don%26#39;t know that I trust any list that has Best Italian as the Olive Garden and Best Steakhouse as the Outback!



    Best of Las Vegas Lists


    in all fairness Diva those were reader picks and not the Staff picks... but I agree lists should always be taken with a grain of salt




    Here%26#39;s a list with which I agree completely. The author is obviously a person of great taste...oh wait, I%26#39;m the author!





    …comcast.net/%7Elgott3141/Travel_LV_Favorite…




    A gree take with a grain of salt. Most of us who live here and read the list have no idea who those %26#39;readers'; are. We usually agree with the staff pics. But it is a good place to get ideas.




    Diva - I thought that the chain restos you mentioned that were on there was very odd. I was hoping someone would be able to ';de';verify the content.




    I wouldn%26#39;t pay to much attention to this list.





    Outback and Olive Garden LOL












    I don%26#39;t pay attention to any lists because I don%26#39;t know the people who voted. Heck, friends and family- those people who know my tastes in food- occasionally steer me to a restaurant that I end up hating!

    Helpful Link with Hotel Promo Codes...

    I found this link helpful, with a list of some hotel promos on one page.

    http://www.earlyvegas.com/promo_codes.html

    I believe most links are current too %26amp; not expired.

    Helpful Link with Hotel Promo Codes...

    This topic has been done to death and if folks would use the search function, they would easily find it. BUT, I digress.... Since it has been brought up I will add this to the mix. It is also a site with TONS of promos and most people already know about it, but here it is anyway - enjoy

    www.fatwallet.com/forums/travel-deals/704925/

    Helpful Link with Hotel Promo Codes...

    I like www.smartervegas.com

  • blue hair
  • Where to stay First timer

    Hi





    Its going to be my first time !!



    I dont know where to stay I care mainly about the room and lobby prefer 5 star in the frst place then 4 star, location doesnt matter.





    Looking for any suggestions.



    Where to stay First timer


    need more specifics but from what you gave us: Bellagio - Wynn - Palazzo - Mirage - MGM. zbethg



    Where to stay First timer


    If it%26#39;s your first time in Vegas then I%26#39;d say that location most certainly does matter. I%26#39;m a huge fan of the Ritz Carlton at Lake Las Vegas but there%26#39;s no way I%26#39;d suggest it to a first time visitor!





    It%26#39;s difficult to give specific recommendations without knowing roughly what you%26#39;re happy to spend per night and when your trip is. You can pick up a room at a top end hotel for less than $200 per night if it%26#39;s a quiet midweek but that same room could be $500 per night at a busy weekend or if there%26#39;s a large convention in town.





    Working off what you say the hotels you should be looking at are Wynn, Bellagio, Venetian/Palazzo, the newer towers at Caesars Palace and perhaps MGM Signature but without a little more information it%26#39;s hard to be specific.




    Hi again





    My scedule is open I didnt make my reservations yet but planing for next week and no specific time until today !! I have 2 weeks open nothing to do and planing for 4 days in vegas.I%26#39;m not thinking of weekedns beacuse the rate is going to higher.




    Your top Hotles with center strip locations would be



    Bellagio



    Caesars





    A tiny bit north but still great locations



    Wynn



    Venetian



    Palazzo



    Mirage a little less expensive then the rest, but a great Hotel




    Caesar%26#39;s and Bellagio are centrally located and would meet your 5 star needs. For a first timer, I always recommend the Strip, just so you can get your wits about you and see what it has to offer. Mandalay Bay has an incredible pool scene if you are into that, but it is not a central location on the Strip.





    The GO rooms at the Flamingo (central location) may be to your liking as well.





    Also, if you are going to see a show, make sure you get the tix in advance as they sell out quickly.

    Excalibur - Hair dryers in room?

    Does Excalibur have hair driers in the remodeled widescreen rooms? And if they do are they any good?



    Excalibur - Hair dryers in room?


    They have them in the widescreen rooms.



    I didn%26#39;t try it as I have a buzz cut.



    Excalibur - Hair dryers in room?


    Widescreen rooms do have hair dryers %26amp; they are the typical hotel room hair dryer! They work good!

    Pool hours at Hararhs?

    I checked the website but it doesn%26#39;t seem to give the hours of the pool at Harrahs. I know it%26#39;s nothing special but I';m an early riser and like to get my Starbucks and go sit by the pool to drink it and either think about my plan for the day or read the paper. How early can I access the pool?



    Pool hours at Hararhs?


    since the web doesn%26#39;t have the info why not call them and ask?



    Must you know before you arrive? If not ask when you check in



    Pool hours at Hararhs?


    Always call to make sure...





    Open daily, 8 a.m. - 8 p.m., weather permitting. The poolside restaurant is open daily, noon - 7 p.m. The bar is open Sunday - Thursday, 9 a.m. - 7 p.m. and Friday - Saturday, 9 a.m. - 8 p.m. The pool closes for the winter season.




    Thanks Diceman!




    I was curious so I did call and this is what I was told: the pool opens at 8AM for laps only and 9 for general swimming. It closes at 8PM.

    Mirage $77 per night

    Mirage $77 per night





    August and September rates starting at $77.



    Promotion Runs



    July 31, 2008 - September 4, 2008





    https:/…



    Mirage $77 per night


    https:/…



    Mirage $77 per night


    Sorry



    Dont know why the link is not showing up





    Call here 1-866-726-6719




    If you attempt to reply to this post, TheDiceMan%26#39;s link will show as text and you can then copy and paste the link into your browser and Robert%26#39;s your Dad%26#39;s Brother!





    Interestingly it is showing as sold out for my dates August 17th for 6 nights which does seem very odd.




    It´s here:





    https:/…





    CODE: SUMMER08




    ju123,



    There are more promo codes for The Mirage at



    www.smartervegas.com




    Hi Erie!





    Thanks for that. I have already booked my stay at the MGM for our dates in August but I like trying out different codes at other hotels in the rare instance that something is better.





    The code posted above has no availabilty on our dates but other discounted codes do have but nothing as good as the rates I have got at the MGM. Well in saying that a couple of the midweek dates are $72 at the Mirage which compare well with the $69 at MGM, but some of the other dates are much much higher.





    Cheers


  • pout
  • When will airfares stop you from going to Vegas?

    It%26#39;s scary to think how much airfares have increased over the past few months. An article in the morning paper said the cost of jet fuel has increased by about 80% over the past year so it%26#39;s easy to see why airfares have skyrockted.

    Vegas still remains one of the most popular vacation destinations but for those that visit LV regularly/annually, are current airfares altering your travel plans to Las Vegas?

    When will airfares stop you from going to Vegas?

    Flight prices have gone up, but not nearly enough to detour me from going to Vegas.... even then.. I have a car, it%26#39;s 11 hours to get there, but....I can speed!

    When will airfares stop you from going to Vegas?

    For the first time in several years - I actually booked a package - the airfare per person would have been more than the total package for 2. A friend of mine booked the package deal for the airfare -picked the cheapest hotel - and is not even going to use the hotel - the savings was over $400.


    It has already stopped me. It%26#39;s not just the cost of the airfare - I think it%26#39;s only $50 to $75 more - it%26#39;s the overall airline experience and slower times at home. The hassle of flying had already driven me to only want to travel to Vegas once a year. If the airlines don%26#39;t start making commitments towards making traveling with them easier and friendlier, I will be more than content to limit my vacations to places where I can easily drive or take a train to.

    Pretty soon, Vegas may be in jeopardy of becoming a destination that 3/4ths of the country will be happy with traveling to once in their lives because of the hassle and expense getting to unless things change.


    It would have stopped us this year but we got free tickets thru a T-Mobile promotion...whew!

    Last year we paid $92 each way, when I checked for this year it was double. Granted I didn%26#39;t do a ton of checking since we had the free tix, so maybe I would have eventually found a deal, I don%26#39;t know.


    Yeah packages with sites like American Airlines vacations, Expedia, Orbitz, etc are now starting to look more attractive and I%26#39;ll probably use them more. I booked with AAvacations for my trip next week...it didn%26#39;t make any sense not to (even if I had been able to use my compd nights at Palazzo, I would have paid more if I booked separately....I just booked my airfare for February and it was $813 for my husband and I (yikes,,,,,) but I%26#39;ve been checking and the days and times I want (Sunday mid-day, Friday morning) are expensive no matter when you book so I might as well pony up now and stop worrying about it. I don%26#39;t think the fares will stop me, but I might have to get less picky about flight times if I%26#39;m going to be able to go twice a year.


    If I had to sit on a tarmac for 7 hours, that would probably limit my trips to Vegas more than the costs. I might make one less trip per year cost wise but so far it hasn%26#39;t affected me. I will be flying Delta in September and December so I may change my mind after that.


    I think travelers are more inclined to be tolerant of higher fares when LV is the destination since the experience awaiting them is superior to most other destinations...the number of repeat visitors validates this.

    Baby boomers will be retiring by the millions over the next 10 years and it is this demographic that LV%26#39;s rapid expansion is targeting. Now if the economy would recover and cooperate our baby boomers can enjoy retirement and come to Vegas.


    it wont stop me from coming to vegas but it definately make me come a whole lot less. in february of this i had tickets on ata for $350 from maui to las vegas direct round trip but after they went out of business i had to change my flight from maui to la then la to vegas and it cost me $750 with a 9 hour layover in la on the way back. now im going up in september im paying $780 after 50% off for round trip tickets this time.


    Were any of you aware of this letter written by the airline industry to all airline customers?

    consumerist.com/tag/recession-watch/…


    specialk -

    There were some $650 fares on Delta in September but that may be from Oahu only. If you had to fly here first I guess that%26#39;s not a very good deal.

  • reptiles
  • Super-Glue on the A/C at Harrahs?sounds like my mom's house.

    some reviews i have read have stated that you are not able to adjust the a/c in the rooms at harrahs? i find this so hard to believe but would really like to know if there is any truth to it before i go in a couple weeks. it sounds ridiculous but i seen it from a handful of reviews!? if i call there to ask i doubt they will tell me the truth. if you know it to be true, does the same go for ballys? might try to switch to them.



    Super-Glue on the A/C at Harrahs?sounds like my mom's house.


    ';a handful of reviews';





    You%26#39;re always going to get a few unhappy guests at any hotel especially at properties the size of those in Vegas where thousands of people are staying at any given time. Take online reviews with a pinch of salt.





    This is the first time I%26#39;ve heard of this. If it was a serious issue then I%26#39;m sure it would have appeared on this forum before now. I wouldn%26#39;t worry about it.



    Super-Glue on the A/C at Harrahs?sounds like my mom's house.


    I stayed at Harrah%26#39;s recently and don%26#39;t recall any trouble with changing the temperature. Then again, there are a lot of things I don%26#39;t recall with perfect clarity from that trip.




    Stayed there in June and had no problems adjusting the a/c.





    Sometimes, I guess, the people who complain about not being able to, maybe have no clue how to work the controls but don%26#39;t want to admit that.





    At one point I had it down to 62 (right after checking in) to cool the room down quickly and then kept it at 68 the rest of my stay.




    I stayed in June and could adjust the a/c. One thing that they have is a sensor on the a/c. If you leave the room the a/c will not come on and keep an empty room at a cool temp. As soon as you ope the door the a/c kicks on and in no time it is cooled off.





    I found the adjustments a bit confusing until I took 10 seconds to read what switch adjusted what.




    Just got back last night from staying at Harrah%26#39;s. As the above poster said, they have a sensor that keeps the room at 76 or 77 while you are out, and within a minute of getting into the room, it cools to whatever temp you set it at. The controls were pretty easy too. Click cooler to lower the temp, and click warmer to raise it.

    Mixed Spas?

    Hi All





    My fiancee and I are thinking of getting a days pass for a spa. Just the spa itself as in steam rooms, sauna etc. Not too much either, say $15 - $30 each for the day.





    We%26#39;ve looked at a couple of websites, but they sll seem to split up men and women. Do you know of any hotels that would allow us to share the sauna and steam room together?





    Thanks all in advance





    Daniel



    Mixed Spas?


    daily access to the nicer spas are $25-$40, I don%26#39;t know of an that have co-ed wet areas, maybe someone does.



    CR at V/P will have them - although I think (call and confirm) they will be for guests receiving tretments.



    Mixed Spas?


    Sorry, does VP stand for the Venetian?





    Thanks





    Daniel




    Venetian



    Palazzo




    Try the Drift Spa at Palms Place. They offer a Turkish Co-Ed Hammam and offer treatment areas for couples also.

    bellagio and children

    if the bellagio has banned non guests with children from entering the premises, does this mean you cant access the restaurants buffet etc with children if your not a paying guest.



    bellagio and children


    From the Bellagio website:





    ';You must be 18 years of age or a registered hotel guest to enter Bellagio Casino.





    The following exceptions apply to minors who are at least 5 years of age and accompanied by an adult at least 18 years of age:





    Restaurant reservations for Michael Mina, FIX, Sensi, Circo, Jasmine, Le Cirque, Picasso or Prime



    Attending a wedding in our Wedding Chapels



    Attending a convention function



    Attending a performance of ';O';



    Gallery of Fine Art



    Children of hotel guests and non-hotel guests are allowed if accompanied by an adult. Non-hotel guests with children must have their tickets in hand prior to arriving to Bellagio.



    Visiting a Via Bellagio shop by appointment only



    Strollers are allowed for hotel guests only.';





    The buffet isn%26#39;t included in this but in reality I%26#39;ve personally never heard of any accompanied children being turned away.



    bellagio and children


    thanks blagger

    Vegeterian restaurant/cafe on the strip?

    Please suggest.



    May be something similar to this:



    http://www.juiceforlife.com/takeout_menu.pdf





    Thanks!!



    Vegeterian restaurant/cafe on the strip?


    Hmmmm...all I can offer you is this link:





    http://vegasclick.com/vegas/vegetarian.html

    Spa with Infra-Red Sauna, any ideas?

    I%26#39;d like to go to the SPA in one of the days, for me best work Infra-Red sauna...I%26#39;ll appreciate your reply. Thanks!

    PS. Leaving tomorrow:)))

  • pout
  • hair gel
  • Bellagio To Rio

    Everyone says that the vies from the VooDoo lounge at sunset are great so we%26#39;d like to check this out.





    We are stopping at the Bellagio so what would be be the best way to get there - and also what would be the best time? Does it get busy with everyone going to watch the sunset?





    I searched the forum before asking this question and there was mention of a shuttle from CP or Ballys but I wondered if this was still the case as that post was about a year old.





    13 days to go.............





    Cheers



    Clegg



    Bellagio To Rio


    Yes there%26#39;s a shuttle from Ceasars. I think they%26#39;re every hour. There%26#39;s also shuttles from Paris, Flamingo and Harrah%26#39;s.





    Sunset in a couple of weeks time will be at around 7.30. It shouldn%26#39;t be too crazy at that time on midweek nights.



    Bellagio To Rio


    DrLegg,





    Being in the Bellagio your best bet is to catch the free shuttle form the Paris (just over the road)the bus picks up by the Arch de Triumph I%26#39;m not sure how often or how long it runs. A taxi would be cheap enough or the Deuce if you have a $5 all day ticket. If you google the Voodoo lounge that will give you some details I think it%26#39;s free entry before 8 then after that there is a cover charge. It will be quieter on a weekday night than say a Friday or Saturday.




    If you%26#39;re going to take the Deuce then be aware that it%26#39;s the service that runs along Flamingo Rd that%26#39;s required to get to the Rio, not the bus that heads up and down the Strip.




    Thanks guys :)




    If you dsont mind heights





    The sunsets at the Top of the Stratosphere tower are better.





    This will give you your sunset times





    timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html…




    This website will show you the Rio shuttle schedule:



    lasvegasadvisor.com/…




    The Caesar%26#39;s shuttle is closer to Bellagio than the Paris shuttle. It%26#39;s on the side of Caesar%26#39;s that is just across Flamingo from the Bellagio.

    Boyd Gaming now has an on-line slot finder feature

    bconnectedonline.com/slot-search/index.html



    I was just doing some research for my upcoming mini-roadtrip and found this link on the Blue Chip Casino website. It lists all slot %26amp; VP machines at all Boyd casinos, Vegas and beyond. It even gives you the approximate location of the game on the casino floor. I was excited to see they have the Wizard of Oz but one of my new faves, Top Gun, seems to be missing from the list. They know I%26#39;m coming and that I won over $200 last time, lol. Anyhow, hope this helps those of you going to Vegas soon and playing/staying at a Boyd casino. I believe those would be Orleans, Gold Coast, Fremont and Main Street downtown. Am I missing one more???



    Boyd Gaming now has an on-line slot finder feature


    There is also the California downtown and a handful of other locals casinos. One things about Boyd casinos I have always liked is the wide variety of slots. Now I can scope out new ones in advance!



    Boyd Gaming now has an on-line slot finder feature


    Right, the Cal, and Sam%26#39;s Town, too. I wish they%26#39;d name one of the new hotels that will make up Echelon ';The Stardust,'; just to have a connection to their past. Or maybe they just want to forget the Stardust and all the legal trouble it had prior to Boyd buying it!




    Cruiser, thanks for the info. I love to use slot finders and plan on going to all the Boyd casinos in Vegas again next trip.



    Benny




    thanks for the info. it is very helpful.going in sept. can%26#39;t wait.




    Great helpful info as usual Strip. Thanks for that link.



    When you going???





    and tell your Cubs to stop beating up on my Giants. Better yet, tell the entire LEAGUE to stop beating up on us, LOL.




    Low



    Giants? Go, Eli, go!!!

    Free Internet Access @ MGM

    Anyone know if I can get coupan for free internet access @ MGM or no ?



    Free Internet Access @ MGM


    Never heard of such a thing.



    Free Internet Access @ MGM


    They want you out of your room spending money or gambling.




    Needed access to lookup what places to eat and hang out.




    guess you%26#39;ll have to do all that before going or buy some




    The Signature at MGM has high speed wireless internet. Not sure if it is throughout the MGM Resort or not.




    All accommodations offer High-Speed Internet access. Pricing for this service is $13.99 per laptop, per room for 24 hours.





    As for free, if you have a host ask. Wouldn%26#39;t hurt.




    ';The Signature at MGM has high speed wireless internet';





    This is covered by the Signature%26#39;s resort fee. Guests pay for the internet access whether or not they actually use it.

    Home Away or VRBO rentals

    Hi again :)





    I%26#39;m in the process of booking at stay at the Signature directly with the condo owner thru the Home Away website. He has his condo listed on both Home Away as well as VRBO. Any of you out there familiar with the process? I%26#39;m hesitant because the owner has no feed back on either website. I%26#39;ve rented a place at the Sig once before this way but with another owner who seemed more organized and had great feedback on the websites.





    Thanks for any input





    Lisa



    Home Away or VRBO rentals


    why not use an owner with feedback, since that seems to be a stumbling block for you? With so many units offered is this practical?



    If you want this unit and the owner is on both websites, and you have used VRBO why not use that website since you are familiar with the process? No need to ask us, you already know how it works.



    Home Away or VRBO rentals


    I would prefer to rent with someone who has feedback left on the website but the ones I%26#39;ve contacted either they have no availability or the rates they are charging can%26#39;t compare to the deal I%26#39;ve found.





    I was just hoping to hear from other%26#39;s that might have been in similar situation and how it ended up working out for them.





    Lisa




    VRBO.com and HomeAway.com are simply websites that the individual owners or management companies can advertise their properties.



    I don%26#39;t think it matters which website you use since most owners use both. It%26#39;s more about finding the owner or company that are professional, have a fair price, and are professionally managed and CLEANED!

    Best Burger

    On or off the strip. Classic, tasty burger - not greasy. No foie gras or truffle oil, etc.

    I hear In n Out Burger is a big hit, never eaten there. Really? Looks like nothing special, but that might be what makes it good.

    Best Burger

    I dont know, I usually dont come to LV for a hambuger.

    I do know that In and Out seems to be popular and the new BLT burger over at the Mirage is popular.

    Best Burger

    Can%26#39;t tell you where to go but maybe where not to go! Wandered into Fat burger (I wasn%26#39;t looking for a good burger rather just a snack on my walk back down to my hotel). It took ages to come and was poor and very tasteless


    In n Out and Fat burger are chain joints- good greasy spoons type.

    Burger Bar @ Mandalay Bay (between MB and Luxor inside) is great you build your own and they bring it out just as ordered.

    Mirage has a new Burger place called BLT Burger that is very good also. Off stripp there are many, but I can not recall the names because you drive by and see one turn around and try it but never go back the next trip because you are doing something else.


    The best I%26#39;ve had is the burger at Bradley Ogden%26#39;s bar. It was only on the bar menu, so you%26#39;ll probably have to call the restaurant to see if it%26#39;s still available. The meat was loosely packed and had excellent flavor.

    Second best: Burger Bar. Very good quality; the sweet potato fries are also worth while, as is the vanilla shake.

    Don%26#39;t bother: Burger Brasserie (average hamburger); In-N-Out (good for its category, but still just a fast food burger).

    Not tried yet: Daniel Boulud - but it%26#39;s disqualified for having foie gras AND truffle.


    my co-worker kept raving about in/out burger before a conference. so we walked there from Mandalay.

    it was good - place was packed, but line went fast - sat outside

    good burger / fries / shake


    The best burger I have had in Vegas was at ESPN Zone at NYNY. Very tasty.


    NO!....In N Out and best burger shouldn%26#39;t even be mentioned in the same sentence!!!


    I am looking forward to building my own burger at the Burger Bar in Mandalay Bay but currently, and in my opinion only, the best burger in Vegas is at the Harley Davidson Cafe.

    Pretty damn awesome and extremely good value.


    The Burger Bar is awesome. You will definitely enjoy it.


    I enjoyed my burger at FatBurger. Definitely a greasy burger but it was good.

  • ittwit
  • tipping, how much and for whom....

    Coming to Vegas for the first time and noticing ALOT of variation on the tipping suggestions...



    we are not %26#39;loaded%26#39; by any means but would tip regardless.





    Tipping cab drivers: ?



    Tipping housekeeping:?



    Tipping Bellboy:?





    When tipping housekeeping would this cover the turndown service as well? (i can never understand why one needs to tip for someone to pull your bedding back and close your curtains, but i deal with it).





    Please let me know what your thoughts are on tipping for the above mentioned positions.





    Thanks All!





    Kbee:)



    tipping, how much and for whom....


    you will get many different answers to this. For me 15% for cab, $2 a day house keeping, $3 if my kids make a mess or we need extras, bellman $2 a bag.



    tipping, how much and for whom....


    cab drivers



    we take them rarely, but, I think 20% is likely reasonable.





    Housekeeping



    tip a couple bucks a day OR $5 at the end of the stay if they have not done any cleaning until we leave- see next comment.



    We don%26#39;t like people in our room, and we bring lap tops, electronics, camera%26#39;s etc... not all rooms have safes. We often put Do Not Disturb sign on the door the entire time we are there, we are never any one place for more than a couple days except while on a cruise or resort. I don%26#39;t like things out of place, so, we clean and organize all along and I could care less if my bed is made for two days.





    Bellboy



    Personally, I have never left anything with the bellboy, but, my understanding from reading here is a dollar a bag.





    I will throw another on here in case you have a vehicle...





    Valet.



    We asked the Valet at Flamingo what we should be tipping when we drop our car, he said they expect $1 when you pick up your vehicle. We pay a couple dollars when we drop off and pick up. Have never had bad service, hope we are tipping appropriately based on his comments.




    Well, according to most people on here, you HAVE to tip EVERYBODY!!....cab driver, housekeeper, bellboy, concierge, dealer, pit boss, valet, janitor,




    I can NOT believe the valet guy actually told you they ';expect'; a tip of at least a dollar!! How tacky is that?!?! But then again, it IS Vegas I guess!




    Because don%26#39;t forget.....these people are only making minimum wage and are struggling to make ends meet!!




    When in Rome..........



    Put tipping etiquette in the search box and you will get all the info you need.



    Tipping IS NOT diseretionary




    ';they make min wage and are struggeling to make ends meet'; Valets and doormen do make about min. wage, but trust me they are not struggeling. Most all make more a year then the management.



    You tip when you pick up your car, not at drop off. Giving them a tip at the beginning does nothing to protect your car. My brother was a valet so this is first hand info.



    I would be very embaressed to have a bellman bring up my bags and than give him nothing.



    On tipping %26amp; room service. Always look at your bill. There is usually an 18% cahrge. That is the tip, DO NOT add more. Many people do not know this.




    %26#39;Tipping IS NOT diseretionary %26#39;





    since when?




    the 18% surcharge on room service is a tip, but it is split up by the kitchen %26amp; other bellboys. anything extra goes directly to person who delivered your food, so give more if service is exceptional. i list a range for all tips because amounts vary based on service and the person tipping. tipping, while expected, is very discrentionary. i just look on it as good karma as an extra couple of bucks means a lot more to service individuals than it does to me.it%26#39;s pretty much $2-$5 for everything.





    for cab drivers, 20% is good, but for simplicity, just give $2-$5.





    housekeeping $2 - $5 a day.





    bellboy - $2-$5 per bag is the norm.





    valet, on pickup - $2-$5





    guy at the taxi stand - $1-$2





    dealers - make a wager for them when you are winning, or give at least 5% of your total profit when you leave.





    and you can tip almost everyone who does anythig for you. concierge, baggage check, asking for directions, room upgrades, etc.




    Tipping is a custom. It is not mandatory.


  • the bees
  • Pre-Trip Injury

    My sister in-law injured her nakle and had to have surgery to repair damage, I was wondering if anyone knows where in Las Vegas can one rent a motorized cart, since she needs to stay of her ankle for six weeks. We go to Vegas in 3-weeks any help would be greatly appreciated.



    Pre-Trip Injury


    ';nakle'; - sounds nasty....... :-)





    From vegas.com:





    ';There are a few companies in town that offer wheelchair or scooter rentals for visitors:





    Ability Center: (702) 434-3030



    Active Mobility: (702) 736-4399



    Better Life Mobility Center: (702) 876-9606



    Desert Medical Equipment:(702) 876-9171



    Las Vegas Wheelchairs:(888) 678-6267



    Medical N Mobility: (702) 233-3770



    Mesa Medical: (702) 263-8511



    Scootaround: (888) 441-7575



    Scooters4Less Inc.: (877) 524-5308



    Universal Mobility Equipment:(800) 852-3006';





    Also her hotel will almost certainly offer good advice if she contacts them in advance of her trip.



    Pre-Trip Injury


    I cant tell you where but yes you can rent. They are everywhere. Several years ago, my wife broke her foot a few days before our trip. Se went anyway of course. She ruffed it out on crutches most of the time but did get a wheel chari one day and hated it. She said she was nervous standing on the corner of LV Blvd and Flamngo at the crosswalk. She was afraid i might take my hands off the handles as i was pushing her and let her roll out into traffic as a bus was coming. Try your hotel and see if they rent them

    Possible stupid question about time zones!

    I can%26#39;t seem to find this exact info anywhere;





    Are LA, Grand Canyon, Vegas, Yosemite and San Fran all in the same time zone?





    TIA!



    Possible stupid question about time zones!


    Hi





    Yes all but I think Grand Canyon. I think it is on mountain time, so it would be 1 hour ahead. Someone will confirm or tell you better I am sure.







    Clive



    Possible stupid question about time zones!


    The Grand Canyon is in Arizona which is under the mountain standard time zone. The others are in the pacific daylight time zone. However, Arizona does not use daylight savings time, so, during the period of daylight savings time the Grand Canyon would effectively have the same time as the pacific daylight time zone. When daylight savings time is not in effect the grand canyon would be 1 hour ahead of the pacific daylight time zone.




    Arizona is a little strange (no offense) as they%26#39;re on standard time all year round (other than certain areas under native American jurisdiction - it gets a little complicated!)





    Basically Grand Canyon is the same time as Vegas in the summer but is one hour ahead of LV in the winter.




    I keep myself updated with both the time and weather in vegas using this web-link





    www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html…





    hope that helps out a bit




    www.timetemperature.com/tzus/time_zone.shtml





    Check this site out for questions about time zones.




    Aha! Not as stupid a question as I thought then!





    I will be there in August, so all of the places I mentioned will be in the same time zone, Correct?




    ';I will be there in August, so all of the places I mentioned will be in the same time zone, Correct?';





    Yes and no! Grand Canyon is in a different time zone but as it%26#39;s not on Daylight Saving Time you won%26#39;t have to change your clocks and watches when traveling to and from there from Vegas or California in August..... :-)




    The first time I visited Hoover Dam, I noticed that there is a clock on each of the two intake towers in the lake. One is in NV and one in AZ. When I was there, they both read the same which I thought was odd. I mean, why have two clocks if they are the same, right? I later learned about AZ not using Daylight Saving Time. If you visit during Winter, you can bounce back and forth alternately aging by and then becoming youthful by an hour!





    Rob

    Bally's or Harrah's???

    please advise asap, we are booked at harrahs but since it is a sister property of ballys i think i can still change it in time. im nervous after reading some of the reviews on harrahs. does anyone think one is better than the other? and for what reasons? is one cleaner than the other?



    Bally's or Harrah's???


    I%26#39;d personally change to Bally%26#39;s based upon great central location and size of rooms. Cleanliness won%26#39;t be an issue at either hotel.



    Bally's or Harrah's???


    I%26#39;ve never stayed at Harrah%26#39;s, but a friend of mine liked it. Another friend of mine and his fiancee stayed at Bally%26#39;s and I saw their room, it was OK, nothing incredible.





    From what I see, Harrah%26#39;s and Bally%26#39;s are both very equal. Both have good location (near each other, too) and both are reasonably priced, kind of middle-of-the-road, and from what I hear neither one has any great pool at all.





    My recommendation would be a third Harrah%26#39;s property (Harrah%26#39;s owns Bally%26#39;s and this third property) - the Flamingo. It%26#39;s right between Harrah%26#39;s and Bally%26#39;s. The rooms are decent, a little older than the other two, but here%26#39;s why I recommend it:





    - Location - right at center strip (but the location of the other two is the same anyway)



    - Price - reasonable (again, like the other two)



    - Views/Windows - all the rooms have these GREAT floor to ceiling and wall to wall windows which are AWESOME with a strip view or even without it. They are heavily tinted so people can%26#39;t see in too easily but you can see outside great. At night it%26#39;s easier for people to see inside when you have a light on but you can just draw the curtains when you need your privacy.



    - Pool - the Flamingo has one of the top 10 (some would say a top 5) pools in all of Las Vegas.





    So that%26#39;s what I recommend, go with the Flamingo. Again, all 3 are Harrah%26#39;s properties, for what it%26#39;s worth.





    Good luck!




    If pool is important to you, I would go with Flamingo because they have the best pool. As far as everything else goes, I like Ballys the best. They are connected to Paris and right across the street from the Bellagio. Their casino is more laid back than the others which I like, the hotel and casino are easy to get around in and the staff is very friendly and helpful. The rooms in the north tower are huge, very nicely furnished and extremely clean and comfortable. The bathrooms are covered in granite and nice size. The south towers are outdated but have outstanding views of the strip. And honestly, it%26#39;s just my opinion, but I think the public areas at Ballys seem cleaner and a little nicer than the ones at Flamingo and Harrahs, just IMO!!! Anyway, I honestly think any of the 3 I mentioned would be fine!





    Whatever you decide, have a wonderful trip!!!




    While Harrah%26#39;s has a more active casino, personally I think Bally%26#39;s is a bit more upper scale.





    While both properties dont have a great pool area Bally%26#39;s has the edge.





    Both have great locations, the edge goes to Bally%26#39;s





    As you know you also get Paris thrown in seeing its attached.





    I would choose Bally%26#39;s but Harrah%26#39;s has an excellent casino atmosphere and a more elderly group of patrons.




    They are both good places to stay, very clean rooms, very comfy beds. You can%26#39;t go wrong with either of them IMO. IMO here is the pros to each place, Bally%26#39;s rooms are a little larger %26amp; it%26#39;s connected to Paris. Harrahs has a better vibe casino, better places to eat, Starbuck coffee, great nightlife like the dueling pianos, Carnival Court, Toby Keith Bar %26amp; Grill for live music. They both have simple pools nothing fancy. As other noted that Flamingo has the better pool, they have 4 pools %26amp; 1 adult pool. It all depends on your preference %26amp; what you consider for it to be a nice place to stay. Here is the website to check it out %26amp; compare to see what appeals to you more. Have a great time in wherever you decide to stay.



    www.harrahs.com



    on top click on LV then on the hotels to check out the pool, rooms, dining, Hotel overview.




    Check out the Flamingo. Did some looking around on this site and reading comments and concerns. The GO Rooms at the Flamingo seem like the best option. They are updated with new age decor, middle of strip with monorail right behind the property.....we used a code thru smartervegas.com and saved quite a bit of money. Check it out.





    have fun,



    stonejhawks




    I have always been surprised that Ballys almost always is cheaper than Harrahs. We have stayed at Ballys many times %26amp; have never been inclined to check out Harrahs.



    We like Ballys for price, location, huge rooms, great views from south tower. Anyone can go to Flamingo pool after 2PM.




    Both places are good, but I personally prefer Ballys. It%26#39;s a little more updated.








    We%26#39;ve stayed at both places and both places are fine. I lean more towards Ballys though because the rooms are bigger and i like the casino .

    Mama Mia Tickets - Different Card To Purchase

    hi all, I have a little problem - possibly.

    I purchased some Mama Mia tickets with my debit card but that card was damaged so I have had it replaced but the booking info says I require photo ID , the invoice and the original card that was used to purchase the tickets.

    Will I be refused the tickets , what can /doI need to do

    Mama Mia Tickets - Different Card To Purchase

    I%26#39;ve had this problem before in Orlando.

    Are the Mamma Mia tickets available for pick up at Will Call or did you get e-tickets?

    If at Will Call, I would ring them up and give them the new card number to avoid any complications when you get to Vegas.

    If the tickets are bar coded scannable e-tickets (i.e. like CDS shows) then it is a risk, but nobody has ever asked to see my card before. Normally the tickets are just scanned and they allow you through. The only problem would of course be if somebody had already scanned your e-tickets (highly unlikely) where you would then have to show you card to confirm they are your tickets.

    Mama Mia Tickets - Different Card To Purchase

    Call the box office in advance and explain the situation. They can then verify everything with your card issuer if they so wish and it shouldn%26#39;t be a problem.

    I personally wouldn%26#39;t take the chance of showing up without calling them first.


    Janzbro, as ju123 said, if you%26#39;ve printed your actual tickets already the credit card and ID requirements are irrelevant. From the way your post is worded I suspect this isn%26#39;t the case.


    The tickets are prepaid to be picked up before the show from the box office


    I would definitely ring them and explain the situation. It will be easier to sort any problems out from the UK then when you are in the front of a queue at Will Call at the Mamma Mia box office.

    I just gave my new card number and the security code and they amended the details on screen. When I picked the tickets up, there was no problem at all.


    I suggest you ring them as well.I did a booking like yours in June and when I picked up the tickets at the box office I had to produce the credit card I had booked with as well as my photo ID.It%26#39;s a great show by the way...enjoy.

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  • TR- Belated Birthday Trip 7/25-7/28

    My husband and I returned on Monday morning (one of the first flights out)





    We had a great time in Vegas as usual. We were celebrating my birthday which was earlier in the month as well as celebrating being done with a summer class that we had been taking.





    A little about us: We are a recently married couple - we got married at the Flamingo on May 11th. I am in my late 20%26#39;s and my DH is in his early 30%26#39;s.





    Lets begin...



    We flew out on an early afternoon flight from Phoenix on Southwest. We arrived to the airport exactly 1 hour before the flight was scheduled to leave.. DH was a little testy because I was held up at work and he was worried that we would be late (he is very punctual..I am not) Of course we make it to the airport and check our baggage. Flight status said our flight was on time but in reality it was running about 1 hour late. Luckily, we got to Vegas only 45 minutes late (about 5:45pm).





    Our luggage came out quickly at the baggage claim and we were off to the taxi line. I did notice that the Harrahs checkin is no longer in the airport. When the heck did they remove it?





    The taxi line was long and it was pretty funny to hear all the people complaining about the heat. Being from Phoenix, although I can%26#39;t say I%26#39;m used to it, it wasn%26#39;t that bad since we were in the shade. We got a cab and off to Bills we went. The lady cab driver was telling us all about how bad traffic has been. Turns out we were lucky and caught very little traffic to Bills. Tipped the lady well and off to checkin we go!





    Bills: It was our first time staying here. I had just signed up for a players card when we were in Vegas for our wedding and we received a mailer offer for $67/nt on the weekends and we could use the Flamingo pool (which we never got to use when we were there for our wedding..we totally missed out).



    There was only one group ahead of us in line. We received room 210 which had an amazing view of the Bellagio Fountains. It was totally clean and functional. Not to mention a quick walk to the strip.





    We cleaned ourselves up, unpacked and started getting ready because we had 8pm reservations at Craftsteak.



    I got my nice shoes on, straightened my hair and transformed myself into my Vegas alter-ego. I work in a technical field all day that is less than social or fashionable so when I come to Vegas, all bets are off and I%26#39;m as high maintenance as I can be (to my husbands dismay)





    Well on this night I was dressed to the nines with my heels on (big mistake) and we head out. The traffic on Flamingo next to bill%26#39;s was horrendous so a cabbie suggested we walk across the street to the Bally%26#39;s cab line. This would%26#39;ve been fine but walking in heels on concrete was definitely not part of my plan. And yup DH is starting to look annoyed but hey I can%26#39;t walk any faster. We get our cab and get to MGM fairly quickly. Luckily since I am a regular vegas visitor, I know that we can cut through the elevators to get to the restaurants. We arrive 5 minutes before our reservation and DH is still making faces. By now I am ready to stab him with my heel. We exchange some words..decide to drop it and make the most of our dinner. We went for the summer menu which was delicious. The highlights for us were the roasted red pepper appetizer, the amazing sea scallops, the corn on the side (for just being corn, it was really good) and all of the desserts (yup there were three of them and they were huge). DH and I were stuffed and a little buzzed. He had two beers and I had two cocktails (raspberry martini and lemonhead martini - both great) Service was excellent too. Definitely worth the money. An overall great value.





    That will be it for now. To be continued...



    COming up...Cheap drinking, Pooltime, WarpCore Breach, and LIITs(bad choice) Recovery and finally some gambling..



    TR- Belated Birthday Trip 7/25-7/28


    By now I am ready to stab him with my heel



    Lmaooooo...I can totally picture that!



    Brave woman to wear heels in Vegas, without a substitute shoe with you.





    ';LIITs(bad choice)';



    Ow ow ow!!! That%26#39;s like a stab to my heart!!!!!! I LOVE these drinks.... (even though they make you stupid, lol)



    TR- Belated Birthday Trip 7/25-7/28


    Enjoying your report




    Totally enjoying your TR. I know what you mean about DH %26amp; their faces, at least you made the most of it %26amp; not let it ruin your dinner time.




    You should have told him.. that he could carry you.. or he could wear the heels!! Lol I%26#39;ve done heels on the strip... not fun... but at least it didn%26#39;t ruin your dinner.




    TR Continued: A creepy cabbie and Friday night







    When we rolled out of Crafsteak, I had a voicemail from some friends that had driven up from San Diego to join us for the weekend. They were staying at IP. Intro to friends: Crazy C, her partner M and their friend Billy the new kid.





    DH and I caught a cab and told the driver we were going to Bill%26#39;s. The cabbie told us that traffic was too bad to go to Bills (wtf) so we told him to take us to Flamingo instead. Our entire drive he complained about how his last fare was unhappy because they were sitting in traffic and that they just could%26#39;ve walked but one of them had heels on. I laughed and agreed that heels aren%26#39;t a good idea. But then he went on and started talking about how he was glad to be rid of his wife. And that it was the best decision he ever made. AND that she wouldn%26#39;t leave until he threatened her with a gun and (get this) put it in her mouth! Me and DH were like OMG creepy! Thankfully, traffic wasn%26#39;t bad for us again and we were thrown off at Flamingo which turned out to be a good choice because we just walked up the little road between Flamingo and Bills and there we were. We didn%26#39;t even have to set foot into Flamingo. But needless to say, we were creeped out.





    We went up to the room and changed shoes. My DH needed a short rest so I went to IP to meet our friends and told him to meet us there. I was ready to start the party.





    The walk to IP was super quick and I found my friends at Geisha Bar drinking the IP specialty - Mai Tais. (EE%26lt;3vegas history lesson: last time I was in Vegas with C and M, we stayed at IP and drank way too many Mai Tais and I ended up losing my cell phone in a bathroom at the Wynn.)





    We went up to their room with because they had brought some specialty (ie strong) beers for us to try. They wanted to wait for DH so I called him and sure enough, he was still laying down. I told him to get over to IP to have some beer. He showed up 15 minutes later. We drank 3 large bottles of the beer in the room and caught up with eachother. At around midnight we decided that we should probably go somewhere. We decided to hit up Bills for there $2 draft beers. A round for 5 people was $10 – a great deal in Vegas.





    C is a chatterbox when drinking so it wasn’t long before she had made friends with two guys that were next to us at the bar. They were in town for the Cotto/Margarito fight so they got into a long talk with DH about boxing. Three or so rounds later (1 round courtesy of our new friends), we were all hungry, kind of drunk and definitely tired. C wanted to go to Grand Luxe but we overruled her and settled for the cheaper and closer Victorian Room. It was my first time eating there. Everyone enjoyed there food. DH and I split the Big Deal breakfast and used the $3 off coupon from the Bill’s players card coupon book. We stumbled out of the Victorian room and I sat at a Zeus penny machine and decided to play. This was my first play of the entire trip and I cashed out a $75 ticket after getting a couple of bonus spins. Then it was off to bed at 3am where we slept like babies.




    Saturday:



    I woke up too freakin early (9:30am) and I was definitely hungover. Rising early after a night of drinking has been a recent occurrence for me. I just can’t sleep it off like I used to. I got up, got ready, took an advil and went downstairs. Bought a expensive water and a pack of cigarettes at the gift shop and decided to play some slots. No luck this morning but I did take advantage of a free cup of coffee from the CW. She even brought me a cup of ice because I don’t like my coffee too hot. Service was good but then again, it was pretty empty. I knew DH would need some water and I really wanted gatorade so I tapped into my vast vegas database in my head and decided to the quickest would be to walk to the Stage Door one block behind Bills. I got two large waters and two gatorades for $5 there. Definitely a good choice for some much needed liquid. Went back to the room and woke up DH. C, M %26amp; Billy and planned to meet them at the Flamingo pool. At this point I needed some food or at the very least..bread =)





    DH and I got our swim clothes on, packed the water and the sunscreen and then headed to find some bread. Passed Seattle’s Best @ Bills but nothing caught our attention. We ended up at Java Coast at Flamingo. I got a delicious apple turnover and DH had a fruit and yogurt parfait. I used my total rewards comp points to pay for breakfast. Then it was off to the pool.





    Flamingo Pool: Talk about Huge and Full! As soon as we walked in there, I wondered how the heck we missed out on coming when we were in town in May. Waterfalls everywhere and tons of pool space. We walked and walked until we saw 5 open chairs together. Only to find that several of the backs of the chairs didn’t have the capability to be moved up. It wasn’t that big a deal to me. We waited for our friends to arrive and then we got into the water. It was perfect – nice and cold the way a pool should be. We didn’t stay in long and went to get a little sun. As soon as we dried off we went back to dip again. Eventually, we decided it was time for some beers. The funny thing about drinking beers in the hot sun is that you get buzzed super fast. Our first beers were from the bar in the corner of the pools. Apparently business must have been slow there because the bartender was a total a-hole. His tip jar was empty and we didn’t feel compelled to tip him either. For the rest of the day we took our business to another bar that was a little farther but at least the bartenders were nice. At around 3:45 we decided to pack it up and then meet up at 5ish for Dinner at Grand Luxe Café. We were all pretty warm and pretty buzzed by then. Needless to say..we didn’t make it to dinner until almost 8pm and we were tired!





    Grand Luxe Café @ the Venetian is a must visit for us. The food is great, the drinks are great and it isn’t too pricey. C%26amp;M have been splitting the Grand Luxer Burger Melt for like 4 years. They always order the same thing. This time we changed it up a bit and ordered some Southwest Quesadilla as an appetizer. DH LOOOVES this quesadilla so if you like quesadillas try it out. For our entrée, DH and I split a huge chicken parmesan and pasta. Billy had a chicken club that could’ve fed four people. The ladies had mojitos, DH had beer and Billy had vodka Red Bull.





    After dinner was over we hopped in a cab to go and pay our final respects to the Star Trek Experience @ the LV Hilton. It was pretty full in there too. We got a seat at the bar and ordered a Warp Core Breach. It was almost everyone’s first time there accept for me and C. The funny thing is that C knows NOTHING about Star Trek. In fact, she kept calling it Star Track and I didn’t have the heart to correct her. After finishing the warp core breach, we decided we wanted at Borg Sphere as well. We took some photos with the Ferengi guy that wanders around and then we decided it was time to leave when we were having trouble explaining to C why Seven of Nine is called Seven of Nine. And then we started cracking jokes with eachother. DH didn’t appreciate it when I joked that he was Eight of Fifteen! LOL!





    Next we headed over to Heart Bar at PH. It was still relatively not crowded and we had no problems finding an empty table. We didn’t think we were drunk enough from our two huge drinks at the Hilton because we ordered a round of Long Beaches from our waitress. Funny thing is, they didn’t taste like Long Beaches to me. They were way too sweet and not doing the job. FYI: a long beach is pretty much a LIIT with cranberry juice instead of soda. So we decided to step it up and take some Red Headed Sl*t Shots and then had regular LIITs for our final round. We decided we needed to go somewhere more lively so we walked over to Carnival Court. The line was long but moved fast and it was $5 for girls and $10 for guys. As usual for CC it was packed and the crowd was rowdy. When we got there the rock band was finishing up there set and the dance music band was coming up next. Big surprise is at this point I’m not really hearing any music anymore (side effect of alcohol for me). In fact I don’t remember most of that evening at all. I do know we got a table at one point and that I had a drink in my hand the entire time. And then we were at the Mai Tai Bar @ IP….AND then DH and I were eating Eggs Benedict and French Toast at the Victorian Room.





    Then it was morning. And the best morning after quotes – “What the heck happened last night?” AND “Wow we drank a lot” AND (my fav for this trip) “I gave you a lap dance at Carnival Court?” Apparently, I didn’t think my DH was having a good enough time. I would be embarrassed but oh yeah..he’s my husband so I don’t care.





    I got a text around 11am from C that read “I need bread. Margaritaville?”





    We met them about an hour later. The wait was only 15 minutes so we went to the bar where C ordered she and I a much needed Bloody Mary. Man those things really do the trick. We all looked like crap and felt like crap. I felt bad for C, M %26amp; Billy because they had to drive back to SD after lunch. Luckily DH and I still had the rest of the day to recover.






    Hmm where was I... Oh yeah margaritaville!





    DH and I finally tried the Nachos and yes they were huge and delicious just as everyone said they were. The most perfect hungover food.





    After lunch we said goodbye to our friends and we went back to our room at Bills to rest. Then it was gambling time. We did hit and runs all the way down to MGM grand (where I had some free play) Didn%26#39;t really win anywhere. DH had some good luck playing a 2 cent slot at NYNY. And speaking of NYNY the construction there is crazy!





    Got to MGM around 5pm, took a look at the adorable lion in the Lion habitat and then went to get my free play and which I quickly lost in a double diamond burger slot. Then before we knew it, it was time to meet a girl I know from Phoenix and her boyfriend at the West Wing Bar for Happy Hour. As usual the Bar was pretty empty so we grabbed a seat and ordered a cranberry vodka double instead of two single drinks. DH had a rum and coke. Our friends arrived shortly after us. After one drink we decided to go someplace where we could smoke. So we went to Centrifuge where there was also plenty of seating open but the drinks were half the size and more expensive than those in the West wing bar - bummer.





    After a few rounds, we said goodbye to our friends and then decided to eat dinner at Nine Fine Irishman. We were seated quickly and the food was ok. I had a Guineess Braised Beef Rib w/ Mac and Cheese and Dh had the fish and chips. After dinner we did more hit and run gambling until we got back to Bills. We decided that we would go upstairs and pack before coming back down to gamble. What a great idea. We were packed and ready to go in 30 minutes. Too bad our luck wasn%26#39;t so good that evening. We did have a great time playing Jackpot Party, Hot Shot Progressive Pennies and the new and so popular Wizard of Oz.





    We got to bed at the early hour of 11:30pm and had the alarm set to 5am.





    We didn%26#39;t sleep well because it was soo noisy in our room due to street noise! We were pretty surprised to considering that this was the third night staying at Bills. I guess coming home drunk in the early morning hours and passing out sheilds you from hearing any street noise at all.





    I swear that there were emergency vehicles on the street when we got up at 5am.





    So we decided right then and there that although we really like Bill%26#39;s, we will skip the strip view room next time :)





    Flight home was typical. We arrived in Phoenix at 8:15am and went straight to work.





    Thanks for reading everyone! If there%26#39;s any Q%26#39;s I can answer, ask away!





    EE%26lt;3




    I give u credit for going staright to work... lol



    I bet that was fun...



    I usually drive from vegas to LA on Sunday night and get home about 1-2 AM and go to work at 7:30Am, by lunch time, I am hating life and everyone around me....lol



    Sounds like you had a great trip, those are the best, when you hit the sheets and its lights out!! even if its light outside.



    I just recieved an offer for Bills also, it came with Sun-Thurs $67- 87 and 119.00 for weekends and some free play and 10.00 off meal in the Victorian room....



    Did you get a chance to see Big Elvis?



    And how was the prices at the Victorian room?






    Great TR well imformative yeah got to watch those creepy cab drivers there is a least one in every city ,glad you had a great time in Vegas thanks for sharing.




    Thanks for the TR you had a blast. I lived in Phoenix in 1985, I still have 2 brothers there, but one of my fondest memories is running to make the flight and back then you had to go run outside to go up the plank to the plane and they served you champagne complimentary 2 glasses before you landed, just enough time to down em. The flighs in advance were like $15 each way for a whole $30 bucks. Those were the days!

    Fabulous Girl's Weekend

    Just had a fabulous trip to Vegas with my girlfriends (all in our early 30s). A couple of highlights to share that I think you should consider if planning a trip to Vegas....



    1) Indoor Skydiving- Worth the $75. You need to be in shape for this though! So much fun!



    2) The Sunday Brunch buffet at Le Village Buffet in the Paris hotel. It was totally worth the $25+ and 45 minute wait. Made to order crepes, made to order omeletes, great goat cheese, croissants, champagne etc! Yum! Plus the atmosphere is so cute and relaxing.



    3) Pure- Night club with a great rooftop view, strong drinks and great music. We were there on a Sunday night. I thought Tao was overrated (on Sat). I liked the rooftop area at Tao, but it was too hot to be out there, the drinks were weak and expensive and the club has no room really to stand. Music was pretty good throughout.



    4) Pool at the MGM (hotel we stayed at), who doesn%26#39;t love the Lazy River with drink in hand? Plus, if you go later in the day you can usually find someone who is giving up his/her floaty for the river. We went to the pool 3 times and I never paid for a floaty, we always managed to find 1 or 2 for our use.





    One of my travel mates had a Vegas guide book by Pauline Frommer and it had some very good info. All in all a great trip!!



    Fabulous Girl's Weekend


    Good TR, sounds like you girls had fun in Vegas. We also like the Paris Buffet.



    Fabulous Girl's Weekend


    Glad you all had a great time! I love vegas Girl%26#39;s trips. Me and my girlfriends do it every year.





    I%26#39;ll have to try out Pure on a Sunday because I have hated that place everytime on Friday and Saturday night. I have enjoyed Tao on Thursday and Friday night though.





    And I also enjoy Brunch @ Paris.


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  • Cheesecake factory or Grand lux cafe?

    Which is the favourite?



    Cheesecake factory or Grand lux cafe?


    As they%26#39;re under the same ownership there%26#39;s a lot of similarities between the two and some of the time they seem to blur into one! I%26#39;m not a huge fan of either but I%26#39;d personally lean towards Grand Lux.





    If you have a car then the Cheesecake Factory by Green Valley Ranch is way nicer than the Forum Shops location.



    Cheesecake factory or Grand lux cafe?


    What%26#39;s so great/different about the one at GVR that would be worth the trek? I%26#39;ve been to CF%26#39;s in many places and the one in Caesars is the same food, maybe a bit more hectic and noisy, but certainly typical and not inferior in any way.




    Warm, I guess it%26#39;s not really worth trekking out there just to eat but if you have a car and are in the neighborhood anyway (it%26#39;s by The District mall which some folks might want to check out) needing a CF fix, then it%26#39;s a less cramped and much brighter and more relaxed place than the restaurant at Caesars.





    Perhaps it%26#39;s just an extension of the different vibes you get off-Strip compared to how it is at the heart of the craziness...... :-)




    I prefer the Grand Lux at the Palazzo Hotel.




    I wouldn%26#39;t go out of my way for either one but if you had to choose one then the GL would be my choice.





    CF at Forum is a better people watching place.




    Well, I have only eaten brunch at GL...it was good. What I found interesting was the menu was very basic...almost like ';home cooking.'; Not many things jumped out at me.



    CF has a lot of interesting menu choices, a bit more imaginative, IMO. I have always been happy with my meal. I am a big fan of their salads.



    That being said, Dad %26amp; DH have not tried GL, and I%26#39;m guessing the menu will appeal to them. We will hit it this trip.




    We always go to the Cheesecake Factory but for a change in a few weeks time we will be heading to the Grand Lux after seeing Mystere.





    The Cheesecake Factory has a bit of a cult following in the UK, but in conversations and from reading other forums on TA, our friends across the pond don%26#39;t quite know why we make such a fuss over it.





    My answer to that, come to England pay our prices and eat our tiny portions, then you will see why we rate the CF!!!! :)




    I have this same decision in few weeks!



    Would anyone know if a Cheesecake Gift card will be honored at the Grand Lux (being sister properties and all)?



    Regards,



    joncor




    I asked the same question a year ago and was told NO, it cannot be used at either/or. However, I was told that I could exchange my card in and have that amount credited toward the other.




    I have never been to the one in Vegas, but there is a mall here that has both... I prefer the Grand Lux, both the service, decor and the food were better.... although the cheesecake is outstanding!!

    I hate expedia!! & AA!



    Lol, just got an email saying American Airlines now charge for suitcases on internal flights. $25 for the 2nd bag and $15 for the first, per person, each way. Thats gonna add up to $160 for us now, which was more than the original cost of the flight! (which we booked in december.. so really they should just let us off!)





    And being the fool i am i booked through expedia so now they will most likely take a hefty fee when we cancel, if we can even cancel!





    Agh!! Time to do a search for driving from LA to Vegas methinks!!





    Sorry to moan but i had to vent somewhere :P



    Maybe someone else is getting an internal flight with AA and will find my moaning useful...!





    :[



    I hate expedia!! %26amp; AA!


    I understand your frustration w/ AA...but that is the deal w/ pretty much all airlines now...



    But u knew expedias cancellation rates; you cannot blame them when you agreed to it when you booked.



    We booked Midwest Express thru expedia %26amp; the flights were cancelled. I paid not expedia fees.



    A couple of years ago I booked a flight thru expedia, pulled out my planner and realized I had booked a week too soon. I called expedia immediately and they changed it w/o a fee.



    I have also booked a cruise thru them (best rate I found on the web), and they sent a free bottle of wine and a free pic, that was not included in our booking.



    Frankly, expedia has done us well!



    I hate expedia!! %26amp; AA!


    We booked through Expedia as well prior to the baggage fees. Because we did so, we do not have to pay extra for the fees. I believe it is only on packages and flights booked after this went into effect.




    Unfortunately thats flying today take a carry on what you need all those clothes for,dont let $160 dollars ruin a good time




    Expedia fees are not high.



    But airline tickets are rarely refundable, and high fees from the airline for a change are common.




    Airlines are not making money, most are losing a fortune, so zipping you with fees to try to survive is not egregious.




    I never used Expedia so I can%26#39;t comment on it.



    I am afraid the added on fees are going to be something we all are going to have to live with in the future. More and more airlines are charging for checked luggage, they are becoming more strict with overweight luggage, some are charging for seats with more leg room(Jet Blue) others are charging( I forgot which airlines) for certain ';better'; seats in coach, most have eliminated or cut down on food service and I have just read where USAirways is going to eliminate all entertainment on their flights- no more movies or music. Some of the airport lounges are also closing. This is in addition to routes being cancelled and less efficient planes being taken out of service. Flying sure isn%26#39;t what it used to be but it still beats walking to your vacation spot!




    Double check with your airline to see if you haven%26#39;t already been grandfathered in since you booked in Dec.





    It did with mine in a similar case, and the new luggage charge happened after we booked in Dec. so they didn%26#39;t charge us extra (actually it%26#39;s GF extra).




    i wouldnt mind if they had told us there would be fees in the first place. i just find it unfair that 7/8 months after we%26#39;ve booked they decide we have to pay all these fees. They should just let us off but it doesnt seem they are gonna do that.





    I suppose its not expedia%26#39;s fault... just moaning at them aswell made me feel better lol




    US Airways is eliminating the entertainment on flights because the weight reduction of by no longer having equipment to play movies/music saves jet fuel. Pretty amazing, but makes sense. Same reason that American does not paint their planes top to bottom.





    My problem with charging for checked luggage is that I think they have it backwards. They should charge you for carry-ons. Reducing carry-on luggage would get people on and off their planes much faster perhaps leading to more effecient use of their fleet.




    I agree with IV - I think you might be grandfathered in. It should say this on the company website under luggage (the fact that you got an e-mail just means they sent that e-mail to everyone in their system).





    We%26#39;re grandfathered in on upcoming flights on Alaska and United, so don%26#39;t see why AA would be different.